A question of Dominant ethics

sebastian · Jan 22, 2010

Yeah, I'm a fixer too. I think it's part of my dominant side. Alex's issues bring out the nurturing side of me. Thanks for the support. I'm so new at this stuff, the moral support is very appreciated. It helps me figure out which instincts are correct--my domming ones or my socialized ones (which tell me that trying to control someone is bad)

InnocentFacade · Jan 22, 2010

I think the same thing can be said for my submissive nature . . . I so desperately crave to please someone that I throw myself too far and fast into things. . . I'm always afraid of being "that person" who doesn't know when to quit *sighs*

sebastian · Jan 22, 2010

Hmm. I know what you mean. I'm very persistent, and consider it a virtue. Most of the good things I've gotten in life have come through simply not giving up. But the flip side of that is that I have a hard time knowing when I'm being unrealistic about a situation. Control eludes me? That just means I need to keep trying. Eventually they'll see it my way and give me what I want.

kittengrey · Jan 23, 2010

Me and my master were just talking about bringing the "puppy play" more into our lifestyle, but he doesn't call it that. I just simply am a dog, no longer human at all when this happens. ever other day I'll get a few hours of human time, along with every morning I have some time to prep myself (ie, going to the bathroom, fixing my hair, eating breakfast) so yeah, while I will be and will be treated as a dog, I will have human time. What his Master did wasn't right, but some people don't treat their slaves/subs with respect, since they don't believe the person under them should be respected. its a true shame, but its the same reason why slavery (I mean old days talking African natives from there land and bringing them here) became a problem. The owners saw them a property, not people.

kittengrey · Jan 23, 2010

-adding on to last post, to lazy to edit-
Actually Sebastain, you remind me a little of my Master. He has a very nurturing care-giving side to him, and he always is making sure I am comfortable with everything we do.

Master, to get himself where he is today, actually went through dominant training. He had a mentor teach him how to be a Master, and how to coop with certain things. He was basically taught that there is no wrong, and he desensetized himself to nearly everything, from child porn to beastuality. Of course, he's not into any of the above, but he doesn't see these things as wrong either. But really, it depends on what point of view its seen from. Most of us see these things as "wrong" because we grew up being told they were. Ok, so most of us, no matter how accepting we are, will probably throw any asshole in jail for killing someone, but then there are some places where they are taught how to kill people. So really, there is no global "wrong", it's all in our own perspectives.

sebastian · Jan 23, 2010

Yeah. I think that's really the way his old master saw him, and wanted him to see himself. I totally don't understand that. It's one thing to abuse and humiliate someone in the context of a scene, and that gets me amazingly excited. But I can't imagine doing that to someone in reality. Part of being dominant for me is wanting to care for guys, to give them a really good time, to have the power to control their pleasure. I don't understand having no regard for the sub's desires and pleasure.

sebastian · Jan 23, 2010

Thanks for the compliment, kitten.

I do think there are definite right and wrong things. One big one for me is consent. I consider child porn and bestiality wrong in an objective sense in part because their subjects cannot give consent to what is happening. My sense of values is important to me as a dom. But I get the idea of antinomian practice. It's certainly of value in exploring the limits one is willing to accept.

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