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I was looking around in forum and for the first time I found a post that deeply offends me and what offends me more is that it seems to be allowed.

I've always had a deep appreciation that the people and staff here allow such freedom of view and speech.

However, this post has disgusted me so badly I feel I may not return. Should I not return I'd like to thank you all for having me. I'd also like to thank you for the good chats and advice and I hope you don't stop for the next newbie.

(Just Incase)
My Reguards,
-Kaj
 
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Before I say who or what I want to say a few things:

As mentioned I have respected the freedom that has been allowed on here. I will honestly tell you all some things blew my mind, they just never occured to me, but I was never once offended. After giving them some thought, even if I didn't agree or it wouldn't be my kink I could at least understand how someone else might be into it.

Futhermore, I have had an appreciate for the people on this site making it clear that in reality the submissive it ultimately in control and not an abuse victum. Seb's intelligence, Slp's silliness, Jey's off-handed way of looking at things, De's insight, etc have all made this a great forum for me. I've never spent this much time even on a gaming forum.

But what I read in http://www.smplace.com/forum/1874-d...aster-slave-relationship-under-true-love.html has disgusted me and frankly on more then one level.

- I am not religious and that's putting it mildly, but to each their own. But to have someone asking to sacrafice their life for the sake of love, I find it truely offensive. I am not so over-the-top to say that life is a gift but to suggest a romantic suicide pact is an abomination to me.

- To suggest that one would kill himself over an imperfect first time is not only beyond my comprehension but it's fucking childish. Got news for you, it's messing and doesn't go perfectly at the best of times, life is messy, after 29 years you should jump out of your fantasy world and join the rest of us.

- "Once I've found my true love, we will, with time, take our lives, together, as she especially, but also I, could never become old." You selfish bastard to act like this is some romantic deed. You ramble on about true love and you have no idea what true love is. It doesn't fade with looks or age. It's about needing them with you, wanting to make their life better with your acts and words, it's about life being better when you're with them.

- "My slave would have to be much younger than me, as well..... youth and beauty is endlessly important, both for me and her. It is definitely not just because of that, though; the life after "death" is so much better than that in the present life, although I would still want to spend our time together in this life, as well, thus we wouldn't kill ourselves before after a few years." If youth and beauty is of so much importance to you, you don't detroy it with some bullshit vision of a romantic suicide. You treat it with love and respect, you don't destroy it in some warped twisted disillusioned suiside pact.

Does it occur to you wwhat this would do to your family? Friends? Her's? You don't need a true love, You need some fucking therapy.

This has NOTHING to do with my kink isn't yours or what this website stands for. The target of this site as far as I could see has mostly been about saftey, suggesting moral guidlines, teaching and good plain sexual fun that is consenting and for the good of all. While his sexual requirements I have no real issue with, his opening paragraph is FAR from what I would consider smplace stands for.

This post is about someone who has serious bloody mental issues and little disguard for his own life or his supposed true loves. It's fine to be interested and comfortable in death but I DON'T and WILL never view it as ok to suggest destoying life is something you discuss like going for a long romantic walk on a beach.

Ultimately he is discussing in the eyes of the law, an illegal activity, we don't allow children or animals discussed, this should be no different.. Some of you MIGHT say well if she is consenting so be it. Can you all tell me you wouldn't stop someone from suicide? I doubt that very much. If you all had such a disguard for saftey and life you wouldn't be here discussing what you do.


Is the staff and community of this site really ok with that?

If you wish to block me from posting because of this, I understand. But I would PLEAD that you allow others in this community to read this and let them express themselves even if it's to disagree with me.
 
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Kaj I like you a lot, and I hope Death's post doesnt bring you to leave the forum, because he posts here quite a bit and is actually a nice, if not dark, guy.

The tagline for SMplace is "the forum is open to all aspects of BDSM..."
Death post falls into that category, this is a critical aspect of BDSM for him, and he imagines it will be critical for the woman he's hoping to fall in love with as well.
His views are extreme for me (suicide, moving to a new country, etc) but they aren't for him and he's looking for a woman who will consent to all these criteria. As far as "safe, sane, and consensual goes" he has the last part hands down.

If we look under the Forum Rules (http://www.smplace.com/forum/47-forum-rules.html) Dorei only says that scat, bestiality, and underage porn are forbidden. I assume he means that porn is forbidden, not discussion. Suicide doesn't fit in that category, and it wasnt porn. It was a discussion/personals thread.

I see SMplace as a community where people can safely discuss and their fetishes, desires, and lifestlyes. There are people on this forum who cant share these thoughts and feelings with other people in their daily lives because it would be too extreme. I'm sure many (if not most) forums here have never shared this aspect of their lives with anyone other than partners and playmates.

Death finds romance in, interestingly, the act of dying. Its offensive and wrong to you, but its very important to him. Remember, all these things he's asking for are 100% consensual. This is not bestiality, or pedophilia, or rape, it is a consensual agreement between two adults.

Whether he's living in a dream world or not is completely besides the point.
Some people on the forum actually need help, like seriously have fetishes that are unhealthy and unsafe or are engaged in an abusive relationship. I dont think this is one of those cases

(this might be a sliiiiightly biased post, since I'm actually pretty fond of Death lol)

EDIT: okay and yes I dont want him to kill himself and obviously I dont want anyone to kill themselves, especially, especially in the face of depression of hopelessness, but this isnt what Death is saying. He's saying that he finds beauty and romance in death and dislikes the idea of growing old. Its illegal in the states to kill yourself (which has always confused me, like, you're dead. what are they gonna do, fine you? Fine your family? That would be awful) but he lives in Sweden. The laws could different there
 
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