New business idea, testing the waters...

Discussion in 'General BDSM discussions' started by Smyttenkytten, Jul 19, 2012.

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  1. Smyttenkytten

    Smyttenkytten New Member

    Hello all...

    So this is only my second post, but I must say in the few posts that I have read I can already see that I have chosen the right forum to join ;)

    Last night after surfing around on Dungeon Corp and Kink sites we turned to youtube after a passing comment about amature redtube getting better in part due to 50 Shades of Grey. Well we didn't find any of that but did get to take a video tour of a playroom/dungeon and it gave me the best idea.

    A few months back when J and I were planning our anniversary vacation we thought about trying a B&B for a night; buuuuut...we wanted a place with a dungeon or playroom and sadly could not find anything close to where we were going to be. We've also been toying with the idea of renting or buying a home out in the boonies or country and convert the basement into a playroom for us to use. But last night it hit me!

    Why not buy a house out in the country and do just that: convert the basement into a dungeon, complete with furniture, whips, floggers, paddles etc (all hand crafted by yours truly of course) and start our own B&B, errr D&B haha. So here's where your opinions come in to play:
    Would you want to take your Domme/Sub to a retreat like that?
    How often would you want to make that getaway?
    What would you expect to pay per night for a stay of this nature?

    My mind has been spinning in circles with excitement over this glorious idea for the last 12 hours, and since J has to work for a living I cannot bother him at work with the trivial details from his Sub's insane imagination. :clap:

    Aaaannnd go...
     
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  2. sebastian

    sebastian Active Member

    I think there's probably a market for it. You could appeal both to novices and hard-core players, if you had a quality set up. You could also probably market it for parties and events, for example a dinner party where the sub's serve the doms. Allowing couples the opportunity to do power exchange openly in a simple social situation is also appealing.

    I think it would work best out in the countryside but not too far from a major city. Otherwise transportation would become an issue.
     
  3. BreakMeDown

    BreakMeDown New Member

    My wife and I are new to BDSM and due to having two young children and a small house we anticipate having a hard time playing. I think this sort thing would work well for us and we would definitely give it a shot if we like what we see on your website. I am not sure we would pay much more than what a regular B&B would go for in the area, maybe a bit for the privilege of using the dungeon. Would there be private rooms in the dungeon? Or reservations of some sort? A nice touch would be to advertise play party maybe once a month. Good luck.
     
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  4. sweetsub31

    sweetsub31 New Member

    This sounds like a fantastic idea! I'm always worried about the noise level of moaning, smacking, crying. It would be so fun to be able to really let go, knowing that you were in a private, remote setting. I would beg my Master to take me!!
     
  5. savannah

    savannah New Member

    Make sure you have an excellent insurance Policy just in case. Other than that if you have a good location go for it
     
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  6. Smyttenkytten

    Smyttenkytten New Member

    Thanks for the feedback!

    Yes, insurance is a must, but I already now that I would have all consenting parties sign a waver of liability...and all that.

    Lots to think about!! :D
     
  7. sebastian

    sebastian Active Member

    On insurance issues, I would suggest contacting a commercial BDSM club in NYC or somewhere like that and asking them what sort of coverage they carry. Liability waivers do not actually waive liability; legally, you can't sign away the right to sue that way (or so I've been told). The reason they're used is they demonstrate informed consent, which can be helpful in a lawsuit, but is by no means a guaranteed resolution to the suit.
     
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  8. Smyttenkytten

    Smyttenkytten New Member

    Good to know! We obviously would do our research, and potentially contact an attorney to draft the correct legal documents, but this is great info!

    I just wasn't sure what the market might be for this sort of set-up, and to be quite honest, I am so new to this that I don't have much in the way of BDSMucation...so I would want to start small and work up. J & I had been tossing around the idea of doing this for just us, but why not make a business out of it. I do think that I would limit the types of acts allowed (i.e. no potty play) simply for the clean up aspect of things as I do not want to come in contact with particular bodily fluids. I know that limits the clientel, but I'd like to think that I would run a clean establishment... :)

    Thanks again for the info...keep it coming! :clap:
     
  9. slaveboy1930

    slaveboy1930 New Member

    My Master has been wanting us to go on a retreat. I really like the idea of having the subs serve, maybe for dinner. Very vulnerable, but very exciting.
     
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  10. I think it would be a great idea.

    But like so many great ideas, and as you already know, the legal side could be a challenge.

    I found this thread on slavefarm.com - it's rather old, but this might be another source of advice.

    http://www.slavefarm.com/forum/general/general-discussions/legal-question-possible-bdsm-bb-usa

    Something else that occured to me is to try to strike up a conversation with the owners of an existing establishment that is far enough away that you will not present a competitive threat.

    I suppose the problem in the US is that you're a loose collection of states when it comes to less mainstream laws and regulations. So somebody in California getting legal advice from someone in Florida might not work.

    If it's general advice you're after from people who run these places, I found this BDSM B&B in New Zealand!

    http://www.bdsmpassion.com/The_Loft_and_Dungeon.htm


    And here are a couple of UK-based establishments:

    http://www.mistresshellena.com/newdungeons.html

    http://www.ukdungeonhire.co.uk/


    And I suppose the ultimate "slave farm" concept (although very FemDom-focused) is the Other World Kingdom. Of course this is not really just a fetish hotel - it's an organization of professional Dominatrices who use some big farm (or something like it) in the Czech Republic (www.owk.cz). They have a different business model - providing a sort of base for a number of professional Dommes, and producing FemDom movies. The "residential" part is probably useful sideline.

    But these examples may give you an idea of "features and pricing".



    Good luck with your plans!

    Cheers,
    Stanley
     
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  11. Hiya,

    I really like the idea of being able to get away. I was (for a short while) at the very beginnings of a D/s relationship but we were not in a relationship outside of it (just friends) and so being able to go away would have been quite fun (well I would have done it).

    I dont know if there would be a market for this but as an added extra there could also be 'sessions' for teaching various aspects of BDSM so that those with less experience could brush up on their techniques or just learn something new - with the chance to try out what they have learned straight away lol.

    That would definitely be my ideal - somewhere safe and not too expensive to play knowing we wouldnt be disturbing or offending anyone and somewhere I could book myself in to a 'how to' session without feeling like an idiot for not knowing.

    Just my thoughts

    MM
     
  12. thinmint7

    thinmint7 Member

    Yes! Definitely! I just read about a hostel in the Midwest that apparently lets people come and play (it claims for free) for an hour or up to the weekend. I just saw that last night and found it interesting, but might be one of those get what you pay for services.

    Anyways, my point is there is totally a market!! I would love to come and stay as a mini vacay and to have the freedom! I say go for it and let us know so we can come visit ;)
     
  13. Smyttenkytten

    Smyttenkytten New Member

    Woot!

    Yes, this idea is still very much in the research phase. And thanks to Stanley Jeffries for the resources! I am hoping that this will end up being an awesome busines adventure for J & I, but of course we still have much work to do. And I LOVE the idea of doing "workshops" or educational classes for newbies, or weekend experimenters. I however would need to bone up (pun intended) on things in order to teach that. :)

    Thanks so much for all of your feedback!
     
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