Subs and hypnotism

Discussion in 'General BDSM discussions' started by sebastian, Feb 26, 2010.

  1. sebastian

    sebastian Active Member

    I've been doing some cyber-domming with a guy in another state. Mostly we chat online, but occasionally I call him and talk to him. I've noticed that when we actually talk, he gradually gets sort of dreamy, like he's going into a trance. It's clearly a pretty intense experience for him (and fun to work with) but I'm starting to suspect that somehow I'm unintentionally hypnotizing him or doing something similar. Given that I'm not trying to do it, he may simply be very suggestible. This has got me wondering, are subs naturally more suggestible or hypnotizable than the general population? I don't have any real evidence for it, so it's just a theory. What do people think?
     
  2. sillylittlepet

    sillylittlepet Active Member

    Maybe he's hypnotizing himself (wait, is that even possible?!)

    I highly doubt it, partially because I don't have a lot of faith in hypnotism. I dunno is there, like, science involved with hypnotism? Maybe some neuro-chemistry?
    Whatever. No I respectfully think your theory should be scrapped.

    Maybe your cyber-sub is just a dreamy kind of guy!
     
  3. master jey

    master jey Moderator

    you have a nice teory bout subs
    but i highly doubt thet it's possible to hipnotise someone with just your voice :)
     
  4. Amcara

    Amcara New Member

    Having worked in the field for many years I can assure you all that hypnosis is a genuine phenomenon and can create remarkable results, (especially in D/s ;-).

    There is a broad range of susceptibility to hypnotic suggestion within the population and your sub could certainly be entering into a light trance state during your discussions. There is in my opinion no danger in this and he is merely responding to his own cues, his own fantasies.

    There's much much more could be said about this but for now just enjoy and observe...its always fascinating watching someone explore their deeper side.

    Oh, and if you need convincing "silly" come see me any time. (wicked laughter down the hall).

    Amcara
     
  5. sillylittlepet

    sillylittlepet Active Member

    Lol I get the feeling that was just a joke, but I would actually be interested in knowing more! I am a sub after all, I cant help but wonder what I can be convinced to do with the right leverage :p
     
  6. sebastian

    sebastian Active Member

    Yes, it is a legitimate phenomenon. It's used therapeutically, although I suspect that some practitioners exagerate its uses. In many places one must be licensed to use it therapeutically. And it can be done over the phone. The hypnotist's voice is the major tool, as well ad the subject's relaxation.

    What got me thinking about this was a session I did with my cyber-sub over the phone. I was giving him orders and having him masturbate. His voice gradually became very dreamy, and he was repeating much of what I said, but slowly. He was totally compliant as far as I could tell (which is typical for him). Eventually I ordered him to start slapping his cock, which he clearly did. After we were done, and started talking more generally, his dreaminess suddenly ended and he became much more 'present', talking faster and more normally. He said that when he started slapping his cock, he felt like he had no control, that it was my hand doing the slapping and he was just along for the ride. Something similar happened a few days later. In both cases, he was slightly scared and in awe of me. "you must be really powerful to be able to do this to me, sir." if I am hypnotizing him a little, it's pretty cool, but I want to know if that's what happening.
     
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  7. ReallyGreen

    ReallyGreen Member

    Yes, hypnosis is real and its effects are lab repeatable. It can't do hollywood things (Only a very mentally ill person would ever think they are a chicken), but its effects on blood pressure, brain activity, pain management (Doctors had high hopes for using hypnosis to replace chemical anesthesia, but opiates simply work much, much better), emotional state, and even cognitive functions.

    In 21st century medicine hypnosis is usually called 'guided meditation' and is used among cancer patients to manage pain and is useful for psychologists in uncovering repressed (consciously repressed or otherwise) memories.
     
  8. L8NightQ

    L8NightQ Member

    Yes.... Transfer of power, control, will.

    That's all I got to say bout that.
     
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  9. sebastian

    sebastian Active Member

    My cyber-sub's comments certainly made me feel extremely powerful and completely in control of him. The second time, when I was more aware that he might be going into a trance, I really got off on that part of it.
     
  10. Death

    Death Member

    ...or creating "repressed" memories, at times. This may easily happen to highly susceptible people. It really is a farce that hypnosis so often is considered a viable method of treatment in psychology. Then again, most of psychology is a farce. I have a lot of knowledge of how they work and it's pathetic, so very often. Hypnosis is of course real, though... just a danger to the "patients", often. It can have great uses in a Master/slave or D/s relationship, too... very beautiful, romantic uses. I myself would definitely believe it is more common that submissives more easily become hypnotized... it makes perfect sense.
     
  11. sillylittlepet

    sillylittlepet Active Member

    I feel silly now :p

    Sebastian, you should try experimenting with this! Get a large group of subs and doms and people who consider themselves to be totally vanilla. I dont really know where you would go from there though, I'm no good with science
     
  12. sebastian

    sebastian Active Member

    Repressed memory is a fairly controversial issue in the psychiatric community. It's not considered proven, and there's a fair amount of evidence to prove that many repressed memories recovered through hypnosis are actually accidentally created by the therapist.
     
  13. sebastian

    sebastian Active Member

    Silly, it might be amusing, especially if I got them all smacking their cocks. But i'd need a grant to fund the study, and I'll bet the APA would object to the research method.
     
  14. sillylittlepet

    sillylittlepet Active Member

    (see that's when you use the hypnoses on the APA heh heh heh...)
     
  15. Sub4Life

    Sub4Life Member

    I'm very submissive, but I could never be hypnotized. I actually didnt beleive it was possible because we did it for an experiment in one of my classes, and it didnt work for me, but most of the kids sad they were hypnotized. But, didnt work for me.

    I am a pretty strong willed most of the time, (but I enjoy submitting. IDK if that makes sense. lol, when not in the pressence of my master, i am independent and assertive)

    I wish I could be hypnotized, to see what it is like, but I tried two times, and it didnt affect me at all.
     
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