Personal Growth

sebastian

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I'm very conscious that growth isn't just for subs, and doms have to be willing to learn from their subs, especially if the sub is more experienced. I played with a boy this weekend who helped me stretch my limits for pain play a little bit--the first time I've ever met a boy who could handle more pain than I wanted to give. And a boy I've been chatting with politely challenged me about a minor behavior of mine this morning, which encouraged me to have the confidence to be more who I am.
 
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sebastian

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Yeah. I do a lot of talk that focuses them on what I'm doing to them. "yeah, it really fucking hurts when I smack your balls like this, doesn't it, boy? You'd really like me to stop, wouldn't you? If you beg me enough, I might stop. " I also like insulting them and then making them repeat it. "what a fucking pussyboy you are!". "yes sir, I'm a pussyboy". "no, you're a fucking pussyboy!". That trick generally forces guys into a very submissive place".
 
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AnErieGuy

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Not gonna lie, that's pretty hot! My only conflict is SHOULD you stop him from doing that? I mean honestly it's more a nervous habit to put on a facade of confidence, but for me it helps me cope with things I can't understand, it helps me explain them on a level de-personlized from myself. Again though, I'll do it as a nervous habit and some people think it's amazing, usually people who don't know how to analyze in the first place, and other's just accept it and oo and ah at it. Again though Seb, that musta made him melt somewhere :p
 
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sebastian

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Erie, a good question. I think the answer is normally, "yes''.
1). As I said, I was feeling like I couldn't dom him. So this helped me see that I could.
2) Subs need to experience their Dom as someone who is strong, aggressive, and confident, and this established that fairly quickly.
3) Subs need to get into submissive headspace, and they won't enjoy the experience as much if they can't get there. In my experience, thinking is the enemy of feeling. I use analysis to buffer my feelings; that's why I could see him doing it. By forcing him to drop that buffer, I helped him move into a place where he could feel the feelings he wanted to feel but wasn't allowing. Many subs need to be forced to feel things they want to feel but can't let themselves feel.

That said, you shouldn't mess with all a sub's defenses just because you can. A Dom should only play headgames that he can be responsible for. If you train a sub to be emotionally dependent on you, it is wrong to simply dump the sub without rebuilding their emotional independence. I know two subs who were treated that way, and both felt like wild animals for a long time afterward.
 
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AnErieGuy

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Ahhhh ok, your latter paragraph cleared things up a bit more lol. I see, I just worry about some people who are "forced" to change their way of thinking of living, if you can't tell, I'm pretty liberal lol. In a sense me not wanting them to change for someone is them forcing a change upon themselves for my sake of wanting them not to change... a logical paradox of sorts, but it's my way of thinking. I don't wanna impose you change your ways either Seb, that's not my intention, I just kinda wanted to see your view and rationalization of what you do ^.^ oh and comment my redundent phrase of "That was hot..."
 
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