I don't know how many of you know this already, but paypal banned a ton of different kinds of erotic fiction recently. Users of Bookstrand were sent an email including And from a call to paypal's representatives: So yeah, everyone in the self publishing world's pissed off about that, I'm curious what your thoughts on the BDSM and pseudo-incest (since DLG is popular among us) are. Now, completely aside from that, as I found this months and months ago, is a certain small publisher called Whisper. I have nothing against publishers having limits on their submissions, but theirs just seem ridiculous to me. I think I might have brought this up before, but if I did, I can't figure out where/when, and I probably didn't in this much detail. I did rant about it to Tall and possibly Knots, for sure. Okay, cool, right? This then continues on... I was jut going to copy the most pertinent (pert'nant) parts, but I found some of this sort of amusing. No garden tools? So I can't have them penetrated by hedge clippers? But I'm sure there are some good situations wherein non-toy toys could be used, and I understand that it's a hope of not giving the readers ideas. The rape rule is standard and good (and one we hold here). But under 21 confuses me. I didn't know there was anywhere in the States where 21 was the age of consent. Outside of Romeo and Juliet clauses, it's 16 here, at least, but the age to be depicted in porn is 18, and I thought that was the same over there? But I'm no expert, so oh well. But onto the BDSM- It bothers me more than what they ban, the way they word it. They're just shy of ridiculing people who would submit pony play stories. We've had enough talks here to know why breath play would be banned, but impact play, too? "Any type of physical abuse"? They're not only contradicting themselves and banning many elements of BDSM (I think most of what's left is unenforced power exchange), but they're again blurring the line of abuse and making a worse reputation for fetish... not to mention making 'horse play' a joke for any vanilla writers reading their submissions. The roleplay part bothers and confuses me. They haven't got a ban on incest anyway, but there's a ban on incest play (though I'm sure whoever submits some incest will be creating a new rule). But seriously, no DLG, or schoolgirl, or whatever else play seems ridiculous, seeing as it's already been defined as roleplay and nothing else. I don't know. I find this all kinds of annoying.