I'm not sure if what I want is possible... given my location... or for that matter legal... It would be my first time doing it... so, obviously, I have newbie type questions. Hopefully, somebody more experienced can answer them. The guy in my life, would love a third party. No, I'm not trying to put out a personal ad... I don't want to have sex with another party... and, he doesn't want to have sex with another party. I've mentioned my idea to him... he seems all for it. Does such a place exist in my area, where I can go to get disciplined.... while he would be allowed to watch? I'd like to go to a place where they know what they're doing. I know my guy won't tolerate the heavier forms of S/M. I'm sure you can understand why. I've seen links on the net... really not that into shock therapy. Although, the cold water looked inviting. If anyone is familiar with the Bucks County, PA area... that would be a great help.