EVERYBODY Please read. I apologize

Discussion in 'General BDSM discussions' started by Prissy, Jun 3, 2009.

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  1. Prissy

    Prissy Member

    for everything I have ever done. I made a story up recently about getting attacked. Some of the story is true, however a lot of it isn't. I was hurt, angered and lost when I was told not to post here for the two long days I didn't. I must apologize to all people I have ever made a differene in their lives, whether it be positive, or negative.

    I feel I must take a leave of absense in recent lightings. I hurt because of my actions, and not because f what people say to me. I am making a vow to never lie to anyone again, and I hope my determination will see me through it. To those that I considered my friends, If you want to communicate with me, My MSN, and Yahoo accounts are both active.

    I hope everyone has fun times, and enjoyment.

    Please understand this is more my decision than being forced to leave, as I do realize have harmed the society, in ways I never expected.

    I am sorry to all, and I will take my leave.
     
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  2. Sparrow69

    Sparrow69 Moderator

    Thank you for the apology. It takes a big person to admit their mistakes and accept their fate, even if its because they've been caught in their own web of lies and deceit. I'm not going to sugarcoat things, and this is by no means personal, but your deception, insolence, and willingness to do or say anything for attention goes so far against what this community stands for. Honesty, communication, and trust are paramount here, and nothing you ever did here, from the very first post embodies those values.

    I hope that in time you grow and mature as a person, and can one day be the person you want to be, no matter what that is. Good luck, farewell.
     
  3. fireman3

    fireman3 New Member

    i think you need to grow up a little bit to sparrow. she apologized, which means she knows she screwed up. you saying what a bad person you think she is just makes u sound like a bully. She is leaving, u got what u want so go get bent
     
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  4. nix

    nix Guest

    Call me out of the loop, but what exactly happened?
    I try to keep abreast of the major comings and going in the forum and I seem to have missed something major here.
     
  5. Death

    Death Member

    I don't get it. What did you do? Everybody makes mistakes. And everybody lies. You cannot live a life without lies. For instance, if you feel that someone's life is too ruined to keep living, are you honest and tell the person "I think you should kill yourself" or are you dishonest and withhold this view of yours? Or if there is a war and your man is a deserter and you know where he hides, and the authorities come and ask if you know where he is, do you tell them the truth? The list can go on forever with situations where you absolutely must or most preferredly should lie, so making a vow like that is just purely silly.

    If you leave I can honestly say I will miss you. With all your posts, you just make this place a bit colourful, I think.

    And I agree with fireman, Sparrow... :/ you sound like a bully.
     
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  6. subspace

    subspace Member

    Prissy, I am so proud of you for making what I can only imagine is a very difficult decision, but is for the best. Please take your leave as a time to examine your intentions here. You will be missed and I hope that one day you will return to the betterment of the forum rather than a distraction.
    Firmen3 and Death: Sparrow has shown the utmost patience with Prissy and gave guidance and advice ad nausea on her behavior. I thank Sparrow for having the character to try and help Prissy. Read over all of Prissy’s posts and Sparrow’s responses and I would be shocked if you disagree. I for one am thankful to have this forum where there is a core group of individuals that seem to be honest and are here for each other for both fun and support.
    Take care Prissy!
     
  7. Sparrow69

    Sparrow69 Moderator

    Fireman3 and Death, for the record, prissy had no intention of apologizing publicly, and only did so at the request of the staff. She did not decide to just leave, she was asked to after admitting she lied about being assaulted to several members, including her own Master C, all because she wanted attention, after being banned for 2 days due to harassment complaints with valid proof by other members.

    I, as well as many members, have gone to great lengths to help Prissy through what we feel is a very difficult time in her life. The general consensus of those who have talked to her on a daily basis is that her constant string of deception is the root of some deeper issue, and only damages the community we have built here.

    While you may not agree, or you may think I'm a bully, please know this was not personal, and as her friend, I am sad to see her go, and told her it hurts me that things have come to this. I wish her all the best and i hope she becomes the person she hopes to be. Perhaps if she does, in the future she will be allowed back, but for now I don't see how that is possible.

    As Subspace has said, read her posts, read the posts of those constantly trying to help her, and if you still think I'm a bully, talk to the people who will talk about the PM's or the Emails and the countless conversations. And if your still not satisfied,track down and talk to the members who left the forums because of her.
     
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  8. Death

    Death Member

    Hmm.... well, she certainly has made many posts so it was easy to miss what you're having in mind, and I naturally cannot comment on the PM's, but I'll have to assume that is how it is. Seems I was a bit quick to judge you as being bullyish but I didn't really expect all that.

    I doubt she is a bad person, though.... seems she just has some uncertainties to work on.

    :/ ...I guess I know too little to say any more than that.
     
  9. Sparrow69

    Sparrow69 Moderator

    I don't think she's a bad person, I just believe she's made some very bad choices. God knows I have, but you grow from them, and you have to accept the consequences of your actions. Unfortunately, these events simply came to a head long before she realized the damaging effect her actions were having... It's a shame really, because she did prompt some interesting discussions.
     
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  10. Death

    Death Member

    After hearing from her, I think it seems that you are on a power trip, Sparrow. People HERE are not her Master and events in her and her Master's private life is none of your business. Her being trained properly is even less your business, as you told would have to happen before she would be "allowed" to come back.

    I urge the supposed people who have been harassed by her to PM me with a highly descriptive message of what happened. At present time, I can only see this as immensely unfair treatment from the management. Until I'd be proven wrong, that is the stance I will keep. This is all really funny because I've just left a forum due to the management being on a power trip. Perfect that it's happening here, already, as well.

    I'm not going to go through her massive amounts of posts, either, if you ask this of me, and I will not attempt to track down the people that she supposedly has harassed, either. An impossible task, might I add. It's up to the management and the supposed victims of her harassment to supply the evidence. Without that evidence, I can only assume this all is pure fucking bullshit.
     
  11. subspace

    subspace Member

    You have a PM Death

    Edit: if you do not wish to read through Prissy's post (especially the most recent) and the members responses then how can you criticize? Please inform yourself of the situation before reacting. In my humble opinion that is your responsibility as a member.
     
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  12. Tarl Cabot

    Tarl Cabot New Member

    Ok

    I am new here and do not know what actually happened, but the fact that she apologized and admitted that whatever she did was wrong, shows that she is not an evil person. She just made a mistake. We have all done that. There is no need for her to be 'banished'.
     
  13. Sparrow69

    Sparrow69 Moderator

    Actually Death that is not what i said, nor will I debate this any further. You want to hold your beliefs from one side of the story, then so be it. Unless the complaining parties tell me that it is ok to tell you who they are, i will not violate their request to remain anonymous. I have no problem being impartial, and that is why I have the position I do. In my own defense, if it was personal, and a power trip, why would I still speak to her? I want prissy to be the best Prissy she can be. I enjoyed talking to her and I will in some part miss her.

    Do i believe she is sorry? No. I've heard that from her to many times before. Do I think she'll still post here, probably. No doubt shes already considered making ANOTHER account and posing as yet ANOTHER persona in the hopes of deviously attracting the pity and attention she is addicted to.

    As for the latest issue to arise, for those of you out of the loop. While Prissy was asked to stop harassing the members here who were complaining, and to stop posting for 2 days, she was so in need of attention she faked an assault, spinning a tale of woe to those who would listen, even going as far to stage the event to dupe her master into believing she was unsafe. It was only when people started to poke holes in her story, one of which was her master, that she confessed to LIEING to all of us. It was then I asked her to leave, as other members were threatening to do so if "the prissy situation" was not dealt with as they put it.

    If you want to hate me, go ahead. This is a VERY thankless job, and I am here to help all who have asked, INCLUDING PRISSY and MASTER C. They asked my advice, they asked for my honesty, and they have both asked time and time again how to handle this and other situations. The fact is i do this because I enjoy sharing the knowledge i have with others. I don't get paid and i'm on here for about 10 hours a day. Even if payment was offered I'd refuse, as that would make it feel like a job, and less like a lifestyle. You can't please everyone all the time, and if you don't agree with a decision I've made after consulting with others INCLUDING HER MASTER who has himself apologized for her actions, then I guess your one of the ones who won't be pleased in this situation. I'll continue to do this job as long as people want me to, and so far, you sir are the only one displeased with the outcome here. In PRISSY's last conversation with me, even SHE was ok with it. Saddened by it yes, but she accepts it. Just because I'm not her master doesn't mean I don't have rules to enforce, and when it effects this board, that is exactly what I'll do. You can't go into a club as a sub, waving a gun around and then when the bouncer throws you outside to the cops, tell them that you don't have to listen to them because they arent your master. i'm sorry it doesn't work that way.
     
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  14. Phantasm

    Phantasm Member

    I support Sparrow and the course of action taken, based on what little I DO know.

    I will also state that Prissy's attention whoring, and some actions of hers when I first arrived lead me to post less than I would have liked. I have nothing against her, and wish her all the best. But if her behaviour has been unacceptable (which it has, even I have seen it), then there needs to be consequences for her actions, or she'll never learn how to be better.

    All of you bleeding-heart, "poor Prissy, how could this happen to her?" fools are just continuing the attention-whore cycle, and in fact, making the situation worse and impeding her "recovery" (for lack of a better word).

    Shut up and get over it. Jeez.
     
  15. nix

    nix Guest

    I hadn't noticed any particular attention whoring, so if someone could provide an example for me that would be great. I can't find the thread in question, which is frustrating.

    I do think that lying about something such as being assaulted, no matter who to, is awful and I fully believe that Sparrow made all the right decisions. I think people blew his words out of proportion in his above post, and Death and Fireman3 seem to have villified him a bit.

    I've seen forums divided and abandoned due to internal struggles arising from things such as this and I don't want that to happen here. So while it's okay to have a viewpoint and defend it with evidence, I think we should try and put a cap on inflammatory comments of any kind...
     
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